Living the Inner and Outer Worlds with Drunvalo Melchizedek in New York on November 1, 1998 -  Part Transcript of the Questions and Answers period.

Question: Do you know anything of the prophecies that a time portal will open to us from the Andromedan Galaxy?

Drunvalo: Yes, I agree, but I would use different terminology. What is happening here is not just happening only here, it is HAPPENING EVERYWHERE. It is a full universal phenomenon. However, this place, Earth, appears to be the catalyst. That is why there is so much attention on this particular place.

It probably isn't important for most people to communicate on those levels. Even though I am aware that there are all those changes happening, my main concern now is what is happening on Earth. My instructions when I came here were very, very clear - to move within the solar system and not to expand beyond it or go deeper into it. It really comes right down to just the Earth, to be able to go from wherever you are now to the very next step on the 4th dimensional level, which is not easy. It is a big step. It's one of those places that once you get below it, it's hard to get back up there. It is like going up the Grand Gallery to the King Chamber's, there are all those little steps. The King's Chamber in terms of sacred geometry represents the particular level of consciousness that we are in, but that last step is about 3 to 3.5 feet high. It is one big step to reach the floor of the King's Chamber.

So my interest is not so much what is going on in the galaxy and all the various levels, because that aspect of it, at this point, is really in perfect harmony. We are moving perfectly. There are very few problems. A lot of people are focusing on what the Grays and different ET races are doing, but the truth is that the galaxy and all other areas of life have come together and are now trying to help. And just as your body has cells, which are working for you, the galaxy is alive and conscious and working engendering love. There is very little disharmony in the galaxy, or the rest of life. So my focus is the Earth, going from here to the next step. So I am not going to get into all those other things.

What happened on December 14, 1997 is pretty significant. We just had a gamma ray blast from a little area about the size of Texas in deep space about 12 billion light years away. It's got everybody in science wondering what is going on. Here was a blast of energy that based on E=MC squared would have required all the mass of the universe to create it. It was equivalent to 1,000th of a second after the big bang. That was not supposed to happen. We don't know anything about this kind of phenomena. And since then there were 2,000 or more of these explosions that took place.

And then we just had another new one that came in with the Magna Star on August 27th. Suddenly a brand new object appears in the sky that we never saw before producing huge amount of magnetic energy, and those were also way off the scale of our scientific knowledge. Consciousness and energy are interrelated. There is something going on now that is really beyond our imagination. We can't tie them down to certain terms and words but what is about to happen, is that every level of consciousness is about to go beyond itself into something greater than the appearance. A new birth, a new universal birth is about to happen. So if you are functioning on these levels, (higher universal consciousness) that's good, but for most people in the world, it won't really help them, unless they are called directly into that area of awareness. Most people are just trying to figure out how they can make this change in their lives and to raise kids at the same time.

Question: The Masters are saying that we all have a chance to make the shift to the fourth dimension and there are so many consequences if we don't. They have talked about a rescue operation.

Drunvalo: I am aware that we almost didn't make it, but from my way of seeing now we have all made it through; we will make it through. A rescue operation has already happened within our consciousness.

Question: This is a little mundane after that. Sacred geometry is based on the circle which is really an idealized form which doesn't exist in nature, what we see around us is really irregularity.

Drunvalo: The inaccuracies are perfect. If you tie the Fibonnaci sequences into these inaccuracies you'll see for example that the square that goes around the body is not a perfect square. It is 1/10,000th of an inch off. But if you tie that into the Fibonnaci sequence you see that it is the difference. The Fibonnaci sequence is not perfect except unto itself, it never ever perfectly reaches the phi ratio. It asymptotically approaches the phi ratio as a limit, it keeps getting closer and closer, and closer, but it never reaches it. The solution is that life has found a way to attempt to create this ideal structure that is not perfectly aligned. And it is not supposed to be.

Question: Is there something to explain irregularity?

Drunvalo: Have you seen the Flower of Life video tapes when I talk about consciousness with the various circles and squares? When you start looking at those, each one of them is not perfect. As they get bigger and bigger and bigger, they get closer and closer to that perfect ratio between the circle and the square. If we went on for eternity maybe eventually we would reach it. To me it's as if God said, "Create with the Phi ratio." But we don't know how, so we found a way that produces this seemingly imperfect world. The Earth is not round. It is 26 miles higher at the Equator because the water bulges out on it. This is true of almost anything.

Question: So are you saying that our minds are creating an approximation of some ideal form?

Drunvalo: Yes, our minds using the sacred geometry. There are perfect forms if you wanted to use them, like the golden mean for example, which does this perfection thing, but we don't know how to apply them to life. Nobody has ever figured it out. It's okay; we are still going to make it anyway.

Question: Can you tell me if the Urantia Papers are part of this so called "end times"?

Drunvalo: The Urantia Book was written by the angelic realms from their point of view. In relativity you can look at a single event and it will change depending on your geographical location. For example, if you have a car driving across the state right now, at a constant rate of speed, totally smooth, not accelerating and there was a child in the back seat and he had a ball in his hand and throws it up in the air. Assume he has one way windows and cannot see out. Well, for him the ball goes straight up and straight down. That's his reality. But for you guys out there watching just the ball go by, you don't see that at all. You see it move in a parabola. So depending on where you are when you perceive something, you see something totally different. This is the nature of the reality we're in.

The angelic realms perceive the reality from their point of view. And from their point of view of what they wrote in the Urantia Book I believe it is their truth. That's their way of seeing and explaining what has happened. A human can use that, can see through their eyes and use that as a means of structuring their reality of how things are. And it works great.

Though if you were to have someone else who perceives things from a different point of view in a different way, they may actually see it differently and use different words. It's kind of the same thing with different religions. They're all talking about these different states of consciousness etc., using different words for it, but it's still the same thing. So I think it is a very legitimate book, and I think it is very good.

Question: Can you elaborate a little on the grid?

Drunvalo:  In order to have a life form on a planet, it can't exist and evolve on that planet unless there is a geometrical, electro-magnetic grid that stretches around the entire planet that is associated with that consciousness level. They are tied together. So every bug, every plant, every tree of a certain species has its own grid, and its own geometry's. Humans have three different grids up there. So there are three different kinds of humans in the world; totally different who see things completely differently.

A long time ago we were in a very specific grid, and when we fell that grid was destroyed. We fell down to here, this level of consciousness, and then we reconstructed another one to survive and to be here. For the last 13,000 years the Great White Brotherhood has been working together with the 72 orders to re-establish the first level of this grid. It can't go all the way back up. It can't do that in a single jump; it's too much. What they are calling it now is Christ consciousness. It's the first step.

There are many levels of Christ consciousness. It is not just one, there are many levels and interpretations of this way of seeing. So they have been working to reconstruct this grid. This grid is now completed. If there is anything left to do I am not sure what it would be. In fact, the best I can tell and everything I am being told is that planetary grid levels are completely ready for the Earth's ascension. We can make this consciousness jump right now. There is nothing left to do. It's ready to go. We haven't yet; and so it's all a matter of timing at this point. So now that the grid is completed, it is very easy from here on out.

This is the basic outer structure of the grid that's around the earth. It's a dodecahedron stellated with these points around it. So it's a combination of the icosa-, dodecahedron. This is the one we are moving into. The Russians figured this out in about 1950 or so. America was a little slower. There was another grid, which is one that most people are using in the world right now which is based on triangles and squares. That's an interesting one for if you map it on the surface of the earth, for some reason all the military bases are at the nodal points.

During the Cold War they knew that whoever controlled that grid controlled human consciousness and that went on for a long time. The military is going through a huge enlightenment itself  right now, and it's really good. They are changing fast and in a very healthy way. I'm feeling good about what I'm hearing from them right now.

These two shapes, by the way, are the basis of the human DNA. The DNA molecule is nothing but an icosa- dodeca- relationship. You can see it as a rotating cube, if you wish, rotating at 72-degree angles. But this is more accurate. What we actually have around the earth right now is a DNA molecule. Interestingly enough NASA just discovered that the molten iron core of the earth that was understood as a big hot iron sphere inside the earth has changed shape. It's now a pentagonal dodecahedron. If you want to study these shapes, and you want to study the DNA look into the I Ching. The 64 changes of the I Ching are an exact, perfect replica of the DNA. It is flawless.

Question: Can you describe the changes in the consciousness toward the earth by the military, especially nuclear war. Did it affect the decision not to go into Iraq the last time?

Drunvalo:  It's very complex. The inner world of the Earth's consciousness is extremely complex. There is so much going on. We are able to move even into a different future at this point. We have been able to do this for some time now. The military can identify whom the players are that are going to make the big changes in our future. They can focus on them, from their point of view, to try to initiate change so that things will alter the future in a positive manner. All this is going on. They're messing around with the very akashic records themselves.

The military is doing all kinds of reality testing. The military is not going to admit to any of this stuff, but it's there. There are many people working with mother Earth. The native peoples of the world, all over the world, are connected to her and understand her. They know her. They know who she is. They know her pain. They know her joys. And they love her. There is a lot being done. There are many people now who also love her and are finding ways to allow her to use us to heal the world.

At the last part of this workshop you are going to see what we mean when we get into the meditation aspects. There is a way where we can connect so strongly with Mother Earth that we can actually make changes to the very future of this planet.

In terms of these estimates we are using for pollution and the R2 units (see our issue No 4) that are being used around the world. The only reason I even got interested in this in the first place is because they are psychotronic in nature. Psychotronic means that it is an instrument that only works when the mind connects with it. Dowsing rods, for example are psychotronic. A dowsing rod is nothing but a stick on the ground or a piece of metal, but when it's in the hands of an understanding person, the person and the dowsing rod become the instrument. With all psychotronic instruments, once you learn how they are used and how they work, you can throw them away. You can do the same work without them. You don't need dowsing rods once you know how to use them, you just know. You don't need a pendulum. If you want to know the answer you just write it down. That's true, I believe, with all psychotronic instruments.

The R2s were psychotronic and once we figured out how they were clearing the pollution we applied it to human consciousness. The R-2's do work. They absolutely work. They're amazing! Once we saw how it worked, then we began to see if we could do it without them, and we can! Personally I've demonstrated it six times to groups around the world, but my guidance will not let me continue to do it because they're concerned that people will think that I can do it, and they can't.

I've gone into Mexico City with 40 witnesses, when you couldn't even see three city blocks. It was a big brown dome. You couldn't see any of the sky. Just using the same energies that the R2s use, which are basically coils based on a Merkaba (you've got the real thing around your body), and just running the vibration through our human energy fields, the same geometries that were used to activate those coils, just standing there a blue hole opens up and you can just watch this pollution retreat. It went back about two miles, forming a perfectly blue sky, clear air, clean and fresh to breathe and this wall all the way around. We held this opening there for three hours and fifteen minutes. The moment we stopped the vibration through the meditation, this wall came rushing back toward us and surrounded us with the air pollution. We did this in Mexico, Australia, England and Holland.

Anyone can do this. This is what we used to teach in the Earth-Sky Workshop. Human potential is great. It's enormous; it's huge. We're like this powerful engine running on one cylinder. We're only using a small portion of our brain on one side of us. We're only functioning on 20 of the 64 codons in our DNA. Codons are like application programs in a computer. We're sort of limping along. If we align with the earth, the sun and with all life, and allow the presence of God to come into us and use us, anything is possible. All of our problems could be over with very quickly. Let's see what happens here. I think it's going to go very well.

Question: There is a lot of information out there right now and we have to use discernment to figure out what is right for us. I was wondering about the other world beings out there, talk of mass landings and that they are ready to help us when we are ready to accept them. I was wondering what your take is on that subject?

Drunvalo:  It's not real straightforward and simple. If a space ship were to land here right now I would not go with them because it took me a long time to get here in the first place. It's really sort of a personal thing. There are those who wish to be removed from this pending ordeal, but the highest level is to organically move through it without external help, for us to figure out how to make this change and to move consciously through these dimensions without any external help. We do not need ships; the Merkaba (human light body)-- see our Issue #1-- will do all of this for us.

On the other hand, if you feel you need this external help and   you manifest a ship and get on it and take off, it's okay. You're still going to have your problems. Your emotional, mental problems are not just going to go away. One way or another we're going to have to deal with this stuff that's inside of us that we have developed over thousands of years. It's working through our problems within us that brings us to clarity and to understanding. It's really more complex than that, but it's okay.

People will manifest what they wish. Let me just add something to this for the group. We are creating our world from minute to minute. You've heard this a lot, but you may not have known how much. You are really creating the most distant star and everything else, every time you take a breath. We can look at this on a worldwide basis, and we can look at it from the new 20th century religion called science..., which is what science is - a religion. It's a belief pattern - it's a particular way of believing what we think is true. We really believe in science; we really do. We believe more in this one than we believed in the Catholic Church and other religions.

What happened to science? Science was going along and in the 50's or so, the mathematics said that if this new science was true, then there had to be these objects (quasars) way out on the edge of space billions of light years away or the new science would have to be wrong. So they started looking for quasars but nobody could find one. Finally, one day, one person found a quasar and everybody jumped up and down and said, "Wow, look it's really there". The next day everyone was finding them all over the place, quasars everywhere. Then, as our mathematical theories kept progressing, we came up with the super string theory that some very strong and very powerful people begin to believe in. But if this new theory was true, there had to be these blue lines running through space. Nobody ever saw a blue line running through space; they didn't exist. Finally one day one scientist found a blue line running through space. The next day scientists everywhere found blue lines everywhere. This is how creation works. We dream it up.

This new one is an interesting one with the Magna star. It popped out of nowhere. All of a sudden here is a magna star. All the Magna star is a pulse star, except it is rotating extremely fast - two hundred times a second or some impossible amount like that - producing this huge magnetic field. We could keep giving examples but you'll find that if we want something, we are going to make it happen if we believe it enough. We do this in little ways  in our every day lives and in really big ways also. As we really come together in the world and have a common dream, a common vision, we'll make our dream happen. I think there will be this time when we all will come together in this world; it is part of the Hopi prophecy. It's one of the last parts of the prophecy. Robert Ghost Wolf didn't get into the last part of the prophecy. He got into the middle part where everything was doom and gloom, everything was falling apart; it was horrible and ugly and all this stuff was happening, but at the very end, all of a sudden, the entire world goes clear of all pollution - the water, the skies, the oceans - everything goes clean and clear. The next day the whole world falls in love with each other. There is this beautiful unity that takes place. We then move in love to the next world. This is what the Hopi say. (applause)

We are going to make this change. I know we are. For me it is past tense. I know we are going to get there, but still we have to live it. It comes down to really trusting in yourself and believing in yourself, no matter if you see mountains going up and down. Just stay centered, and believe in God and yourself. Everything is fine.

Question: Earlier you described how the pranic energy passes over the pineal and changes consciousness. I read that it would be beneficial to raise our consciousness to the pineal and I am wondering what effect it would have on the Merkaba field?

Drunvalo: This is a technical question on the Merkaba that not everybody here is going to understand. The reason that we have moved the Merkaba into this chakra right here (heart chakra just above the sternum) is because that is where the Earth is now headed. The Earth right now is at the navel in this spot right here, as a planet. We're about to go here (heart chakra), but we're not going to stop there as we are going to keep going up moving to levels way above the head. And we are going to move very quickly at one point. This motion (the change from the navel to the heart) for many people who have done years of meditation may feel that there is much more in the higher chakras; why stay down here? But it is simply because that's how the Earth is moving at this time. My job again is not to go beyond the solar system or the Earth, but to move with Mother Earth in this change.

There are people who are talking about going up to the higher planes like that. You can use those higher ones with the Merkaba as long as your breathing is not established on those levels. If it is, it is still not bad or wrong, but to do that you better have a real good permission from your higher self. Because unless there is a real purpose or reason for doing that then you're not in alignment with the Earth.

I would never recommend that or suggest that to anyone, but if it comes from within you, not if someone tells you to do it, or says it's a good idea, but if in your meditations with your higher self, your higher self says this is what you should do then okay.

Anytime you change where the two primal flows of energy meet within you, or you change the speed ratios, it will affect the nature of your consciousness and the direction that your spirit is headed. That's what everybody (the ETs) out there is studying, no matter what they look like or how big their heads are, they are all studying "one" thing and that's Merkaba (Light Body) Science. Because that is the creation pattern of the entire universe, and there are hundreds of thousands of consciousness levels possible that are known. Each one, each consciousness level, once you get into that Merkaba if you look out through your eyes, if you have eyes, the entire world of creation is different. It's not the same. So the study of all consciousness levels is the primary focus in existence.

Question: What can we do about male-female dynamics compared with the dynamics between the sun and earth?

Drunvalo: Well, the balance between the sun and the earth has been out of whack for some time now. Sun has shifted its axis; the earth is still on a different plane. We have not changed orbit yet, which we will. We'll go into a new orbit. This will take about 15 years and then come back into the new plane orbit, and that is when the balance on the outer levels of our existence will come back into harmony. There is a reason for it being like this right now.

But it is hard because when males and females talk to each other there is a certain distortion in the communication in case you haven't noticed that. (Laughter) When the male says something to a female, she literally hears something different, and when she talks back to the male, he hears something different. Female to female or male to male communication is pretty good, but across genders there is a major distortion and it's been there for over 20 years now. It doesn't make things easier, but it's also given us the opportunity to grow very quickly, to work through a lot of karmic patterns and stuff. I'm sure most of you who are married or in relationships know exactly what I mean - processing all the time. That's good. We're just moving fast, but we're bringing out karmic patterns into balance very, very quickly. Understanding that we are in a distorted field right now helps. But it just takes a lot of patience. Accepting that it is not easy now helps. Until the universe, and specifically the solar system, realigns, human relationships will not be easy, and yet this unusual situation gives us the chance to make changes very quickly.

We thank Al Harris, Producer/Director of the Ascension Spotlight TV show,  for this transcript and Drunvalo for taking the time to revise it.

KALUMET* TALKS ABOUT ZERO POINT

Q: You talked about the vibrations that come from the sun, are the intensities going to increase within the next year? Are we going to feel them?

Kalumet: The frequencies are pulse radiation frequencies, like the heart-beat in your chest. It is the breathing out and the breathing in of the life force from the universal flow. The frequencies from the sun are close to becoming neutralized to zero, at this point. When that occurs, the equilibrium of opposites will disappear. You will feel the physiological nature of your own being shifting and changing. You will feel anxiousness, fear and a desire for more love. But it will depend where your consciousness will be, as that'll emphasize (affect) your dominant  thought.

The thought is the origin of everything that is you. Without your physical body, you are still a soul, and still someone with a consciousness or something with a consciousness. You'll be aware of what you do and won't control it. The only thing that you'll ever control is that consciousness.
So are you asking, "will we feel things out of our control; will we feel pain, or a frequency that maybe will hurt?" And we would say, no you will probably not feel it that way. What you will see is physical and geological reactions; there will be huge disruptions on your planet; the tidal flow will change, animals will become very confused; so migrations of all animals will change very dramatically and to an extreme.

But the center point, or zero point aspect will not last a great deal of time; it can last anywhere from months to several years. But it can also happen very quickly, depending on how everything adapts to it. There will be some damaging effects (as your consciousness would perceive it), because it will create a great deal of confusion on your planet in the consciousness of all individuals and animal beings, insects and whatnot; because everything resonates to this pulse frequency, so when it reaches zero, everything will have to be at an awareness of neutrality -- this is why we ask that you focus on being non-judgmental at every moment because it is the best gift that you have, and the best tool that you have for staying in balance during this time.

You will still have to deal with physiological effects on your body, like strain, dysfunction in the weaker parts of people's bio-electric system; But those who do not seek the knowledge of a higher awareness or do not have a sense of compassion in their heart, will totally lose control, will lose their mind, so-to-speak, will have a sense of physiological breakdown at such a fast rate that they will feel like they are falling apart.

Marie: Where are we on the ascension process?

Kalumet: The ascension process is a gradual scale. If you wanted to gauge it in terms of development and you use the figures of one to ten, for example, you are at the midpoint. The midpoint is neutrality, the zero point. And you have to go through zero point for some time before you can start transitioning in the upswing. Again, let me use the example of a breath. Remember this rhythm when you leave here because it will keep you in check with the understanding that it is very natural

You are at the point of reaching the pinnacle of that breath. And if you notice your body function, you are at the pinnacle of change, the pinnacle of opportunity to observe life at its fullest. You are having more and more opportunity for growth because you are having more and more awareness of possibility. And so you are applying these opportunities, as souls, into this planetary structure and creating reflections to one another, as beings of light, as if you've turned the light on to your awareness -- and you reflect that awareness to another soul who is seeking that light; and it is just like when you hear people say, when somebody dies, "go toward the light".

Your light becomes the reflection to guide somebody towards you, to make somebody feel like you're the answer. It is exactly like this in the after life. You emanate light energy which is being received by others at all times; and this is what magnetizes you together. But everyone is different to some degree. Everyone has their own purpose of reflection, so that is what we ask you to focus on.

* for information on Kalumet and the Blue Group, click on the Kalumet button.

The transcript from the July session was done by Naghme

NEPTUNE IN AQUARIUS: 1998-2012

To contact Robin Heath, click : http://www.zenithnet.com/robinheath.html

And for David Solte: "Perhaps as Neptune in Aquarius is mirroring a spiritual redesigning of the Human energy field, archetypally represented by the Water Bearer and the flow of his etheric life forces. And Pluto's transit through Sagittarius may be injecting new life into the age-old quest for immortality if Human Growth Hormone can indeed counteract the Plutonic forces of death and the animal nature, allowing humanity to emerge in its fullest and highest expression. Is it possible that the spirit of the times, as reflected in the placements of these outer planets, is cosmically poised for the baby boomers to realize the fruits of their search for the "fountain of youth"?

Neptune and Pluto define the universal archetypes of the Boomer generation. The archetypes of  idealized beauty was activated on October 3, 1942 with Neptune's entry into Libra, and the archetype of eternal youthfulness had been activated five years earlier, on October 7, 1937, when Pluto entered Leo. The merger of these two generational archetypes remained in effect from October 3, 1942 through October 19, 1956.

AND ALSO: Saturn in Taurus (till 2001), we need the nourishment and development of individual talents and resources.

MERCURY TURNS RETROGRADE at 18o Sagittarius from November 21 till December 10. Three weeks to rethink our philosophies, beliefs, and morals in the light of our changing visions of possibilities, so we can launch new projects in the new year.

THE NODES IN LEO-AQUARIUS since 10/21 and for 18 months give broad social trends. We will all be part of this new focus on establishing centers of command. "How do we wield ruling power?" is very much up for development now. The eclipses of the next two years, in this axis, will continue to open us to that individual freedom and dignity.

During Neptune passage through Aquarius, we may expect the veil between the two worlds to be rent in twain rather more often, revealing otherworldly visions that will inspire some and drive others quite mad, as contact with the faery world has always done.

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